You should take into consideration the number of successful people who were college graduates versus the number of successful undergrads. Most jobs with satisfying pay requires people to at least have a college degree. A college degree is important if you're planning to be a professional. Who would want to hire an undergraduate nurse? pilot? Or see an undergrad doctor? Some jobs like the crew in a ship do not get promoted if they're undergrads even though they're skilled and capable. I think same goes with hotel and restaurant staff.

Let me just tell you that most people want to be entrepreneurs but most people fail miserably because [quote=bramzero;#395954;1397467163]We need creative people and entrepreneurs who are able to start something and open up opportunities for themselves and others.[/quote] Where do they get the capital? Work at companies first and be managers = college graduate. People who can't afford going to College don't have any choice but do the dirty jobs most people do not want.

[quote=zanza;#395957;1397468402]Let me just tell you that most people want to be entrepreneurs but most people fail miserably because Where do they get the capital? Work at companies first and be managers = college graduate. People who can't afford going to College don't have any choice but do the dirty jobs most people do not want.[/quote] Those "most people" are not good enough in that aspect because they subconciously follow what school and society taught them, to be conformists. Creative people don't fail miserably, failures are their lessons to produce better ideas, ideas about something that people will like, something for better life, something people need, something that will sell like hot cakes. These are the same people who are able to produce failproof business plans, who can start things with little or no capital, who don't have problem in raising fund and getting investors to trust them when necessary. We need more of these kind of people but don't expect our current educational institutions to produce them.

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[quote=zanza;#395999;1397474772]It's not because they are conformists but because they are simply idiots who don't have the necessary skills to enter the competitive world of business.[/quote] Because they complied when schools/universities taught theoretical bullshit and directed them to be the workforce. [quote=zanza;#395999;1397474772]And I always thought creativity is innate. [/quote] I thought so too but that's because the whole life we've been told by people around us that if you can draw / write / sculpt / play music / etc. we are creative. Then we started to believe if we can't draw / write / sculpt / play music / etc. we are not creative. The truth is creativity is not just about artistry. Can you learn to produce something or to solve a problem, in a relevant and innovative way? If your answer is yes then creativity is not innate and anyone can learn to be creative.

It depends on the career you want to pursue. If you want to be a successful athlete (like Manny Pacquaio) then having a college degree is not important since being a successful athlete requires training, physical strength, agility, or whatsoever the sport requires. Same thing goes when you want to be an actor or actress or a fashion model where looks, body proportions, face, training, etc are of great importance but not academic achievements. But if you plan to be in the corporate world, then that's where the importance of having a college degree comes in.

[quote=bramzero;#396917;1397582156]Why don't you at least do your homework and make sure you fully understand what you're saying, before throwing some silly arguments?[/quote] Oh right sorry bout that because you're the expert in reconstructing/improving the whole educational system and into producing more creative people when you don't even know how to make that feasible. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Business_Administration]Alright, here you go.[/url] Those are the courses for people who wants to be an entrepreneur so how do you effectively change people to become like this: [i]These are the same people who are able to produce failproof business plans, who can start things with little or no capital, who don't have problem in raising fund and getting investors to trust them when necessary.[/i] That's like bringing someone into a classroom and try changing their personalities. Creativity might be learned, but can you change their appetite for risks? Dissipate their anxiety from uncertainty? Eliminate fear from failure? and etc.

Hope you're into jumbo hotdogs too bro because look who's making personal attacks now. And FYI, you can see entrepreneurship as one of the specialization under BA. Lemme stop here before it turns into a complete sausage fest.

It is important even if you were not able to use the knowledge and skills taught to you in College for whatever reason. A college degree will [i]still[/i] give you an edge from other people and it [i]will[/i] provide you with more opportunities. Most companies even reject applications from unknown schools and prefer to hire those who graduated from a well-known university.

not really important i think... just saw this person.. [spoiler]bill gates, steve job, mark zuckerberg and lady gaga[/spoiler]

Yes it is and also technical skills. People take degrees for them to improve their lives but if they've got the money and they are contented with what they have, they'll probably invest it and buy stocks and live happily ever till death. But in some cases, people take degrees for them to improve not only their skills but also their attitude or even gain friends and connections. With regards to MBAs or Phds, I think it's for promotional reasons and salary increase or/and self-fulfillment.