[quote=velle;#217800;1341660622]planning for counter attack[/quote] well, planning is a good thing right? [quote=bobcbar;#217297;1341644246]Interesting ...not sure how many really would work..wish I had tired them about 20 years ago[/quote] actually bob, you don't need any of these steps. coz you already have the "thing" that girls crave for.