[quote=bubblegum;#339824;1373245166]OT: I always skip reading tres' posts. It's too effin long. hahaha[/quote] I love this discussion, can you blame me?! And I'm hyped up because aya and I are not in the same page in this and that's challenging [quote=aya;#339937;1373284328]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.[/quote] I can't freakin play this video because of my slow internet connection but what the hell, Hazel?!? HAHAHAHAHA [quote=aya;#339937;1373284328]A guy only puts his best foot forward during courtship so EFFORT doesn't mean shit to me.[/quote] But to others, it does, right? This is sort of sad but true though. Although I want the girls who read this to know that there are guys who would still be willing to keep his best food forward even after courtship, and that we need your help in that too [quote=aya;#339937;1373284328]Do you know what pakipot/playign hard to get means? it is pretending you are not interested in the other person, when you really are.[/quote] I know what you're trying to say, and either connotatively or denotatively, that ^ is the definition of pakipot. What I was talking about is [i]their reason[/i] behind the pretension. Basing on my experience I've known pakipot girls who are pakipot because: (1) no reason, they're evil and just want the cat and mouse chase (thus the "coy" which is cute until it gets overdone); (2) they like the guy but are not sure if they want to bite into the potential of the relationship; and (3) they want to prolong the courtship because [i]lampungan[/i] is fun HAHAHAHAHAHA! Like, in my opinion all the pakipot girls do the same thing (pretending they're not interested), but they don't all do it for the [i]same reason[/i]. [quote=aya;#339937;1373284328]You know, if you wanna know what a girl is like, you can start off as friends. It's not like you have to court someone immediately just because you're a little interested with her. [/quote] Yeah, yeah I'm aware of this. And I love pairings that either start off as friends or enemies but in my case it was always a pattern of pursue before get-to-know. Because I never fall and never wanted to fall for a friend.. until I met my current girlfriend ([i]hiyawan![/i] ) [quote=aya;#339937;1373284328]It's like you're saying you just want flirt around, Waters. [/quote] Flirt and win the prize. But Hazel, I'm a changed man!